going on, is it as important as it was to find collusion? isn t there just such a stench? coming out of the investigation. it may make less of a difference. to that end, maybe you can answer this. if the mueller investigation wraps up, is it all over? no, i don t think it s all over. i think there s so many far flung tentacles of this that the president s problems are far from over. as we have seen in the southern district of new york, i think this is just beginning. thank you so much for being with us. up next, the latest ruling against obamacare could leave millions of people without coverage. it s likely to face an uphill legal battle. republicans seem to have no plan to fix health care. we will hear from ohio governor john kasich next.
demonstrated by this report. that report shows they are mirroring and echoing the trump continuing campaign against the special counsel. i thought there was a lot fascinating about what rouudy giuliani said yesterday but suggesting that collusion is not a crime, that even if the president did hear from roger stone about wikileaks, that was not a crime, acknowledging that maybe the president did lie but he wasn t under oath. all of those admissions, moving the goal post so far, not to mention the fact he allowed for the possibility the president was negotiating on trump tower moscow all the way up until the election. do you think there s a strategy behind rudy giuliani coming out with these admissions now? i hope that rudy giuliani has his malpractice insurance paid up because i don t see a strategy. i see simply damaging admissions on behalf of his client. and moving the goal post, as you just put it, john, is exactly the right way to term it, because what they re doing is trying t
that s dangerous to any democracy, particularly this one. and i think he was chastising people who either acquiesce or defend this assault on truth. in terms of an assault, there s a russian attack on the 2016 election which we learned today has continued after the 2016 election. these two new reports including one tonight which is saying that some of these attacks are on special counsel robert mueller and his investigation. again, you were in the middle of it all through the inauguration. are you surprised that the russian efforts have continued until now? no, absolutely not, and john, i have to say it s very gratifying for me to read about these reports because they simply reinforce or buttress what we said in our intelligence community assessment in january of 2017. and remember, the first objective of the russians was to sew doubt, discord and discontent in this company, and they have succeeded fairly well
from over. district of new york, i think n- this is just beginning. thank you so much for being with us. up next, the latest ruling against obamacare could leave millions of people without coverage. it s likely to face an uphill legal battle. republicans seem to have no plan to fix health care. we will hear from ohio governor john kasich next. the greatest wish of all. is one that brings us together. the lincoln wish list event is here.
him and as the american people know having watched him, donald trump s connection to facts and evidence is very tenuous. and so i doubt that he will ever be a witness voluntarily. it will take a subpoena, and there should be one from the special counsel or from the southern district of new york. john, remember that the most advanced edge, the point of the spear now in this investigation is in the southern district of new york in manhattan where that unindicted coconspirator, individual number one, is having a very bad time. we should note as of now we have no reporting on any subpoenas being issued by either entity, but obviously we re watching it very closely. senator richard bloomenthal, thank you for being with us. perspective now from cnn chief legal analyst and former federal prosecutor jeffrey toobin, and also ken cuccinelli and cnn s