but sometimes they look airplanes can look very much like the con trail we thought was a missile and here is admiral john sutt stuffelbeam talking about this effect. this was a late afternoon shot, it s a setting, western sun, and i m pretty sure that the imagery would have come from the east, looking west. when you look at things that are silhouetted against the sun or at least from the sunlight direction that amplifies a whole lot more than if you were looking at something cross range or down range. so if you get any if we get any new information, we ll bring that to you. martha: we would appreciate that, steve, because we re trying to nail this down here in new york. steve centanni, thank you very much. it s a bizarre story, we re getting a lot of reaction from viewers. we want to hear what you think, log on, take our you decide question, we re asking the very simple what was it? tell us what you think it was, you ll see what other people think it was. we ll brpg you those