more. joining us now john rat clef former trump director of national intelligence. john, great to see you tonight. thanks laura, great opening. laura: i want to start with this story in the washington post. again, many of us at the time were saying the only ones with real motives here to blow up this pipeline that took seven years to build were the ukrainians or people supporting the ukrainians. for that we were branded as putin apologists et cetera. now it looks like we knew all along that this was a plan to be carried out by ukrainian military forces. how important is this story tonight, and how significant is this scandal? laura i think you hit the nail on the head where you said this is really the pattern of the biden administration. often times the intelligence that we have is good and they re either not listening to it or they re being dishonest to the american people about what the intelligence really says. we saw our intelligence on what happened in afghanistan was good
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