show. and a privilege to be a father. and it s my birthday as i mentioned and a wonderful birthday gift and john is going to bring a lot of credibility and honor to the country and you do the same thing and that is why i love you and respect you. neil: well he has a challenge in front of you, good luck to you and good luck to your son. john huntsman senior, think a mormon can t make it, a pulitzer prize winning author says they used to say the thing about politics until john kennedy came around and he provided the back drop for that in the best seller the fitzgeralds and kennedys, and that was the first book i read of her and then i was hooked, including no ordinary time, of the roosevelts and the tragedy of johnson and team of rivals, and few are better at
primaries are all about so it may be that it will, one of them would have preferred to be the only one, in question but that is not the way it is. neil: do you get a sense that the governor was too nice today? i try to liken him to john huntsman sr. but when he spoke at the statue of liberty different from the message that ronald reagan carried, criticizing and by name, mentioning, again and again, the incumbent in the white house. what do you make of that? guest: i m not sure today s announcement was the place for that kind of talk, he deliberately chose the statue of liberty, a great backdrop for the announcement and it reminded people of reagan, but, i think you do need the plan to be passionate and that is different than not being civil. i have often thought if you could find a moderate who was