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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190725:03:42:00

chief for the washington post, and john heilemann, veteran journalist, msnbc national affairs analyst, co-author of game change, co-host of the circus on showtime. phil, you ll excuse me. it was congresswoman bass who kept calling him mccann today to the point of great frustration here in the studio. a very basic question for you, phil. in your judgment did it just get harder for the democrats to get mcgahn in front of that committee? well, that s a good question, brian. as you lay it out, that s the next step for democrats. and what they re trying to do here is build some momentum. they have the facts that are laid out in the report. they have the facts that mueller testified to. what they re missing is the political momentum to move towards impeachment. and having an open televised public hearing with don mcgahn, the former white house counsel, could potentially provide that. that s a big if. the white house has been blocking that testimony, although there have been some

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190725:03:43:00

negotiations between the staffs. but this court proceeding could be the next step. i m not sure where it lands. it seems like mcgahn may be willing to testify in a limited scope to talk about the facts that are in the report. but there are a lot of questions surrounding the optics. for example, would it be a closed testimony behind closed doors or would it be something that played out the way the mueller testimony did today as a nationally televised event? john heilemann, they could use the president s dvr to power a small city. there s every indication today his calendar was clear, he watched every moment of it and later critiqued network by network all of the post-game coverage. sean hannity came on the air tonight. i mentioned this earlier. graphic over his shoulder was the day impeachment died. what s the chance he s right? you know i come on the show? what frequently and you bait me with references to sean hannity.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190725:03:46:00

and phil rucker, it is true, the bold stroke is available to them. we sometimes forget. it is true, congress loves them some time off, especially in the summer. and such a thing would screw up a lot of travel and vacation pla plans. it s probably also true only a tiny percentage of members of congress are looking forward to the kind of town hall meetings they re going to have back in their districts this time around. if they have them at all, brian. but look, i think john is right when he says that the momentum is stalled out here. in talking to some democrats tonight there s a feeling that this mueller testimony did not really move the needle and that there s a possibility of course that if mcgahn comes forward and they get through these court battles and democrats sort of build a consensus within that house caucus to try to move toward impeachment something might happen. but it seems much more that democrats if they want to remove president trump from office they re going to have

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190725:03:54:00

president who has denied repeatedly election interference, who has said that he takes putin at his word. we remember that moment in helsinki. and he s really not invested much interest, as president, in overseeing steps that this government should be doing or could be doing to pry to prevent it in the future, not only from russia, but china and other countries, as well. i can yield you 15 seconds. it s much worse than that. he s inviting the help of russia again in the next election. we saw him with george step nop louse. he wants the help of foreign actors, again, in 2020. he s going to seek it. it s not that he s just not alarmed by what he heard today, he wants more. gentlemen, thank you. phil rucker, john heilemann, always a pleasure. back with more, including some breaking news tonight, right after this. s tonight, right after this

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190725:03:50:15

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