that witness is a guy by the name of dennis root who is safety and law enforcement expert. our expert msnbc legal analyst lisa bloom has been watching this. we saw john guy for the prosecution demonstrate the angle necessary for trayvon martin being on top and george zimmerman on the ground. this 90-degree angle and the physical possibility or impossibility of how zimmerman would be able to get his gun. one thing and i think you were struggling with this too that john guy didn t demonstrate the fact that george zimmerman has said his gun was behind him, not in front of him. in the police re-enactment video george zimmerman was positioned behind him with his gun in the holster. that is a good point for john guy to make. i like the demonstration. i like him on top of the mannequin and showing it. a picture is worth a thousand words. when you actually see it, you think how is that possible? the expert, though, has said, look, a fight is dynamic, it s a
what hand trayvon martin used to punch him, right? no, sir. you didn t ask him how long it was between the time he got punched as he claims and the time he went to the ground? i didn t ask him for specific times. again, i reference back to what i already said that when i interview somebody for force review a force of event, time is so fluid. saying was it five seconds or ten seconds, is there a period of time that took place. it s fluid, it s movement. it s evolving. so the presumption that once it begins, their except of time becomes less relevant, so i don t lock anyone, anyone into a specific time line in that regard. i know. but the time line is important to you, right? the overall time line, yes, sir. okay. the defendant didn t describe for you how it was they moved from where he claimed the confrontation started to where they ended up?
that is ground fighting option. if i have no background or training to lead me down those baths is there nothing else so i m limited on options. there are always options in every force event. it s just a matter of what you, as an individual, see as being your options. right. but the defendant didn t use any other options, did he, other than pulling out the gun? well, i mean if we go down the path he was vocalizing he did scream for help. there were other options. he ouble continued to try to resist. he did as they refer to as the shrimping technique trying to get and move around. you know, as far as drawing a conclusion, i don t know what else he could have done based on his abilities, because not to be offensive to mr. zimmerman, who doesn t seem to have any. you re not suggesting that the defendant was just laying there getting hit? absolutely not. he would have been defending himself?