been fired saying he got involved in the process. now eddie gallagher will keep his trident point without the review process. jeff bennet has been all over the impeachment inquiry but today he is with me here in new york. david druker also here. joist vance and john gans. also the author of white house warriors. what is your reaction to all that happened here and the fallout? well i think the first thing you worry about is the happening
there are certain norms how that sport is play and this is way outside the norm. you had people who are not part of the administration like rudy giuliani running renegade shadows a foreign policy. a foreign policy that s subverting the national interests of the country for the personal interest of the president. that s the distinct of other back channel types of foreign policies of what we are hearing coming out. john gans, we hathe ukrainia parliament is still under this new president so concerned of the pressure of getting u.s. military aid against russia. they are continuing their inquiry into ukraine s past involvement of discredited theory of ukraine and not russia having been involved in the 2016 campaign hacking. absolutely. what we see in the testimonies that s released today, the
foreign policy over ukraine, that relationship did not have, have state department control. he lost a lot of confidence in his own building. john gans, this was also of course what we saw with john bolton. there was a lot of concerns that john bolton would be too rigid of the iran posture that he had, too much of an outlier, he was pushed out over his objections with the rudy giuliani. he also lost control of the rudy giuliani s back channel. that was a key factor which is now the impeachment inquiry. thoroughabsolutely. when you have this job, you have a lot of bosses, you have the president and congress, you have oversight of the american people and america interests. a lot of people trying to understand why pompeo succeeded if washington and john bolton and others fallen away. one of the reasons is mike pompeo focussed entirely on his
i wish you well with the book. john gans, again, is the author of white house warriors: how the national security council changed the american way of war. our thanks for stopping by. coming up for us, a look back on a week for the history books with a pulitzer prize winning historian who knows from history books, when we come back. everyone s got to listen to mom.
i actually temper john, which is pretty amazing, isn t it? nobody thought that was going to i m the one that tempers him. but that s okay. i have different sides. i mean, i have john bolton and i have other people that are a little more dovish than him and ultimately i make the decision. lot of talk about the tenure of this president s third national security adviser. reports circulating that trump is frustrated with longtime neocon hawk john bolton who s been pushing regime change in iran for decades, just for starters. in a new book on the history of the national security council, author john gans writes, no one knows whether bolton will continue as adviser or be fired over twitter tomorrow. as the world and washington wait and interpret trump s tweets for the latest on who s up and down in a mercurial white house,