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frances perkins who becomes fdr s secretary of labor is a close ally of smith. he s actually got a fairly sort of progressive outlook on women in government. i mean, the advent of the women s vote doesn t immediately have a huge impact certainly on national politics. it ultimately begins to build. but it doesn t have the impact that many people are predicting. and in terms of new york state politics, i mean, john would know this better than i. but i don t have the perception that it really transforms his candidacy. not at first. in fact, smith was not in favor of women suffrage. he changed his mind. in fact, smith s mother said, i ll never vote. there s no need for me to vote. and she does. she casts her first ballot, i believe, for her son for governor. but smith s hook on women s suffrage is, he gets belle moskowitz and a lot of these people involved and he starts to realize, these are new voters. and they said, how do i talk to these people? they said, talk to them like

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