ha sanders. can you say no one here discussed pardons in this case? i can say that ty cobb is the person that would be most directly involved in this, and he has a statement on the record saying there is no discussion and there s no consideration of those at this time at the white house. joining me live now is attorney charles. if this is true, could it constitute obstruction of justice? it could. here s why. you have john dowd who, at the time, was the president for donald trump lawyer. lawyer, i m sorry. lawyer for donald trump. asking about pardons on behalf of flynn and manafort, who he did not represent. the question is, who asked him to do this? was he doing this on his own accord or on behalf of donald tru trump? now, flynn and manafort are two people who could provide, potentially, incriminating evidence against donald trump. the idea that you would dangle the notion of a pardon to two people who could provide information that is really important to this investiga
and also said that paul manafort is a good man. i m wondering if the president believes he has the right to use the power of his office, power of pardon, to protect them from what he may see as unfair punishment down the road. does he believe he has that right? i would refer you back to ty cobb s statement. there s not discussion or consideration of that at this time. there would be no reason for me to have had a conversation with the president about that. that is not being currently discussed at the white house. with whether he believes he has the right to use the power of his office. the president has the authority to pardon individual bus you re asking me about a specific case in which it hasn t been discussed so i would not have brought that up with him. john? thank you, sarah. the president has the power, not ty cobb. which is what i just said to phil. not exactly. you talked about ty cobb s statement. the president has the power of
record that no pardons are under discussion or under consideration at the white house. we ve made attempts to reach john dowd who, as you know, just left the president s legal team, the president s outside lawyer, last week. we do know that he denied this to the new york times as did jay sekulow. this story is coming from somewhere. my guess, brooke, is that sarah sanders is not the source of all this and won t be divulging yes, they have been is discussing the idea of pardons over here. obviously this adds a new dimension to the russia investigation as is written about in the new york times article. if the president s legal team is floating the story, that obviously brings up the discussion again of obstruction and whether or not there was some sort of undue or improper influence that was being attempted by the president s legal team to try to keep paul manafort and michael flynn from