neil: but the last guys came back so the administration, hope springs eternal. guest: but carter didn t and george h.w. bush didn t so exams are on both sides. neil: thank you, larry, a guy that always delivers. and now, the white house lost another one. john dear is pulling out of a group that was supporting a signature issue with a high profile climate change coalition which is the latest company to split from the white house. and t.j. rogers is not surprise among the few in the technology community and the c.e.o. if general, speaking out against this sort of thing and the administration very early did not seem intimidated or now by anyone. t.j., thank you for coming. guest: thank you. neil: what do you think of the message of deere bolting?