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Announcer msnbc, your business is sponsored by American Express. Dont do business without it. Hi there everyone. Im jj ramberg. Welcome. We wanted to visit bliek rifle coffee started by two veterans. Theyve created a culture that helps their employees adjust to their new life out of military. What did flying f15s, how does that translate into the civilian world . I didnt know at the time. Amanda higgins had no idea where shed land after transitioning out of the air force . It was very challenging. Looking back, there was a level of anxiety. Former weapons system officer who saw combat over iraq and afghanistan never thought her second act would be at a coffee company. Neither about john croft. Reality strikes and you start to transition. I had i was missing my comrades is what it was. Theres no safety net when you transition out. The owners of the black Rifle Coffee Company understand the challenges people like john and amanda face because theyve been in their shoes. Theres a stigma ar

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