idea that there are tapes of the conversation. he didn t still, he left a bit of a mystery but one can feel him sort of taking that tweet back. significant, though, that he did say in the exchange with john carl essentially, yes, i will testify, will do so under oath. yes. and historic perspective, doug, modern presidents testifying under oath. how many? put it in context for me. well, it s i do think that was an important moment. and then he added he said, i m going to say exactly to mueller what i ve just told you. meaning, you know, hey, there s nothing there. if he puts that under oath in a private testimony. but remember when bill clinton and the lewinsky scandal, it was a dangerous moment. bill clinton thought he was going to get out of things. we mock him for saying it all