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old case. and we don t normally handle cases like this, but what i need you to do is convince me that you can do such a good job that we ll catch this john list. i said, well, there is no guarantees that what i do will catch john list, but i can guarantee that what i do will look like john list. i was ecstatic. i thought if we can get this show if we could put mr. list s face out there and personality out there, that we had an opportunity to catch him. when i age a fugitive, i in a sense become that fugitive, i think like that fugitive, i try to walk like that fugitive. he didn t just re-create the bust. he didn t just from an artistic standpoint, he studied it like a scientist.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111120:20:45:00

wow, it worked. all that work, thought and physical effort paid off. after 18 years, john list has been captured. and the town of westfield is in shock. timothy benford, co-author of righteous carnage. that day i m riding from here and going into town. i notice people talking across property lines, people on corners, an unusual sight. i pull up to one group and i say what happened? a woman turned to me and all she had to say was they got him. i knew instinctively who she was talking about. when he was captured, people were shocked. the community was elated. it was the talk of the town. i mean, it was incredible. it was an event here. i mean it was a real event.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111120:20:37:00

given frontal views. there was no side, no three-quarter view of john list available to me at that time. so i was able to take the frontal view and determine by highlights and shadow how the nose would be formed. the final task, john list s eyeglasses, a real guessing game for which bender seeks some professional advice. well, the psychologists told me that he wouldn t be wearing contact lenses. i thought about the glasses and i thought about john list and what type of person would john list become? he wanted to give this image he was much more successful than he really was. with that in mind, frank bender goes shopping. i went to the little antique shop around the corner and said to bill who owns the antique shop, do you have any old glasses? he said, yeah, i have a basket full. i went through the whole basket and there wasn t anything like what i was looking for. he said, wait, i have a couple more in this drawer.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111120:20:50:00

1971, john list travels cross country by bus settling in aurora, colorado, where he assumes a new identity and begins a new life. well, john list could do it. he was a bright man. he worked in life insurance in different points in his life. and he was able to take on a new identity. he had done income tax and knew about social security numbers, he kept to himself. it was easy for him. it was easy for john list to disappear. you know, usually, most murderers are so terrified of being caught or trying to escape that they don t have time to sit down and reason and be rational and do this. john list did. we think, and we re pretty sure, he had a lot of this all worked out. this was his master plan before he pulled the trigger. this was a preplanned he knew how he was going to do the whole thing and make his exit. john list became robert clark. he was a short order cook. he took this menial job for a

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