allegations. joining us, marco caputo, and katie fang. mark, tell me about your scoop. i think you summed it up well. it is a bad day for matt gaitsz. for a while a lot of his supporters and people in his orbit thought, look, this investigation is going nowhere because it basically stalled. one of the reasons it stalled is joel grooel greenberg is a problematic witness. the alleged victim in the case not as problematic, but she is currently an on line pornography worker. i don t know the right phrase is maybe porn star. it is questionable whether that could be brought up at trial if it goes to trial, if he does get indicted. nevertheless there could be problems some jurors could have with her as a witness as well. they want more evidence. enter gaetz s exgirlfriend. they were in an open or
represents so much peril for matt gaetz, katie? well, because, nicolle, sometimes the cover-up is worse than the crime. you know, mark really kind of succinctly talks about some of the credibility problems that the federal government may have with some of its key witnesses in a case for prosecution against matt gaetz. joel greenberg, the professed wing man of matt gaetz, he pled guilty the lying and fraud and basically a lot of crimes that speak to his lack of truthfulness. and so you want to get witnesses when you are prosecuting a case that are hopefully above this type of reproach. in this instance, one of the three crimes that the grand jury is looking at concerning matt gaetz is an obstruction of justice charge of. it s the idea that during this 2021 call did matt gaetz and his exgirlfriend participate in some kind of witness taemperring, this idea that they were trying to prevent the prosecution or