of trying to out-trump trump is stupid. you can t be meaner or nastier. he s going to sit in the sauna a hell of a lot longer than you are. so you have to figure out a way to hit him without punching at him. trump in a sauna. that image is devastating. stop it. you can t erase that. you enjoy that today, joe. if i were actually war gaming this, i would tell everybody thinking about running, plan your campaign against donald trump, but expect to be running against nikki haley. you have to think that way. that s so interesting. we ll see. we ll see. i like it. as joe points out, the early smart money is almost always not smart. so we ve got a lot of ways to go here. but don t you think democrats are at least learning the right lesson from 2016, which is that a coronation of some kind is not the way to go as everybody put you know, bernie sanders
we re going to have to temper and balance that. because the big winners here are iran in the region and russia. their coalition is going to have an uptick from this. our strategic challenges, unfortunately, are going to increase. so zainab, the saudis say this was a brawl gone wrong. as joe points out, it was a brawl that included a bone saw and a medical examiner and now president erdogan says it included a body double. if president trump continues to buy into the saudis story, is there recourse here? because we have heard from republicans and from democrats, obviously, but really republicans strongly, as well, in congress that something significant has to be done as punishment here. what is that exactly from the american point of view versus saudi arabia? the hope actually is all lying on american presidency and what america does with this case. i ve talked to a lot of saudis.
there s no verdict. josh, no verdict at least until monday. as jill was saying, possibly a little bit longer than that. while this process plays out, this is a jury that s not sequestered, is that correct? that s right, they re not sequestered. the judge warns them every day they shouldn t be speaking to anyone in the media, they shouldn t be watching any media. but that s easier said than done in this day and age of push alerts and all kinds of other ways that you come across information, in almost every venue, including getting it from people in your own family, associates, so forth, when you re out on the weekend. so it s one thing to have a little bit of media coverage or even a lot of media coverage out there. quite another thing to have the president of the united states opining, essentially, on the guilt or innocence of the person whose fate is being deliberated by a jury. in a sense, it would be simpler if the president did just go forward with a pardon instead of sort of t
he questioned barack obama during a campaign stop over the candidated small business tax policies. where is he now? correspondent matt sims has the answer. today, joe the plumber is more joe the family and businessman. in the middle, ladies first. 44-year-old samuel joe is remarried with four children in the front yard of his ohio home, joe points out where his sudden launch to fame began. with barack obama standing here. on a sunday morning he was tossing a football with his oldest son when then presidential candidate barack obama dropped by his neighborhood to campaign. the secret service patted me down, i walked up and said i m thinking about buying a company. your new tax plan is going to tax me more. joe figured it was the perfect time to ask obama about his proposed man to increase taxes. my thinking was when barack obama was speaking if you work hard we re going to penalize you.
trump campaign said he made to contribution to the campaign. trump tweets why does the mueller team have 13 hardened democrats, some big crooked hillary supporters and zero republicans? as joe points out, donald trump has easily contributed more to hillary clinton, chuck schumer, rahm emanuel, the dnc and dozens of other democrats than everyone on mueller s team combined. and of course the president ignores that robert mueller is a republican and so are many of the officials he attacks, including james comey and andrew mccabe. and yet, gop leadership have little or nothing to say as it continues to undercut the justice department and tests markets firing mueller. as new york times maggie haberman framed it, trump has always seen what he can get away with and when there are no lasting consequences he presses on further. right now he is testing what