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Sides and on the sidelines and their families. So thank you so much, cynthia, for being here today. Guest thank you, donna. Host why dont we start with you telling us a little bit about yourself. How did you get here . How did you get drawn to the issue . Why bully . Why you, why now . Guest well, i come from a background as a writer, and when i was in middle school, i was one of the kids who was really shy, um, i i think i tried to sail under the radar, and i was someone who i saw bullying taking place around me, and i didnt know what to do about it. And as all of us, i think, in this country were starting to see people coming out and talking about their experience of this phenomenon that so many of us had experienced in one way or another and had had no words for other than adolescence, other than growing up. Um, when finally people were starting to stand back and say, hold on, this isnt actually a normal part of growing up, this isnt a normal rite of passage. I think there was a mom

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