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you have a president and a majority party in the senate. i just think i i would add that go ahead. i just see the real long-term damage here. when you just these blanket statements over and over again, if you don t trust them, don t trust the nameless, faceless people who are doing all of this hard work, don t trust the fbi, only trust what s coming out of my mouth. it is i think there is real, sure, this might be a political defense for right now, in this moment, but this is a real moment of real long-term potential damage that can be done to these institutions. yeah. look, i completely agree. you know, i talk with people a lot about how long it s going to take to undo the damage that s being done to our democratic institutions. and it there is a lot of the damage being done. i still go to some agencies, spend time catching one colleagues. it s a very different feel. i just want to add another thing to what joe said. you know, the other thing that didn t exist back
to provide firsthand knowledge. the second thing i think we get that s really important is you know, this transcript that the white house released, you know, there s been much said about the ellipsies in the transcript. and people we really shouldn t call it a transcript. it s a summary. this new whistle-blower will be able to tell us whether or not that summary of the phone call accurately reflects what was actually said between president trump and president zelensky in that phone call. so i think there are a couple of really important things that will help congress understand what happened here. there s an element of this, joe, which is i almost someone might be able to agree with the white house that it doesn t matter how many whistle-blowers come forward only because the president himself has come forward and asked ukraine to investigate joe biden and has added china on top of that since this whistle-blower complaint was made public. from your perspective, what you re looki
today is the whistle-blower program. now you have a program that recognizes that the intelligence community has an immense amount of resources and capabilities. and you have a program within the intelligence community that s designed to make absolutely sure that people are held accountable for fraud, waste, abuse, and other mismanagement. and that very program that congress was responsible for helping to put into place is now routinely under attack by members of congress. so i think that joe is right, this is just another example of putting politics over country. more often we see that right now than the alternative. joe, sean, thank you. appreciate it, guys. coming up for us, president trump makes a major announcement overnight. u.s. troops withdrawing from northern syria. why the president s former ambassador to the u.n. is calling the move a big mistake. plus, the nba is at the center of a huge geopolitical firestorm right now. and it s all about how the league handled a singl
up. so a lot of questions are going to be about what he knew and when. then on friday, marie yovanovich, former ambassador to ukraine, is going to be coming before the same committees, again behind closed doors. democrats want to know specifically why she was fired back in may. she was let go very suddenly. there is a question about whether or not that decision to let her go was politically motivated. so that s going to be a key point of questioning for democrats on friday. republicans, meanwhile, holding the line, arguing that president trump has done nothing wrong and even as he s publicly state that he wants china and others to investigate his political rivals, they re arguing he wasn t serious. kate? all a joking matter until it absolutely clearly wasn t. thank you so much, i appreciate it. so joining me now is former white house secretary, joe lock
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