there was trying to explain. and i believe wes lowry with the washington post is with us. wes, explain the difference between what deeters was saying about the university of cincinnati as opposed to the cincinnati police. of course. and so this was a university of cincinnati police officer. an officer sworn to protect the campus rather than a cincinnati city of cincinnati police officer. so in this case this was somewhat a university employee armed with a gun in a patrol vehicle who enacted this traffic stop. now, this was a stop that took place not on campus but off of campus. it was a stop, again, for a missing front license plate. that is something that is within the power of a university police officer but not necessarily something that they are often doing. these aren t the stops that they are very often making. so that s some of the differentiation that he s trying to make there. wes, also the big distinction in the language that joe deeters was using, are you surprised b
stop of sam dubose. sam dubose driving a vehicle that didn t have a front license plate on it engaging dubose behind the wheel of the vehicle asking for his license and registration. dubose says he doesn t have the license on him at that time asks him to run his name. the officer doesn t go back to the vehicle and do that. however, he does try to have dubose exit the vehicle and see in the video the officer drawing the firearm and fires once and fatally shooting dubose in the head. former federal prosecutor kendall coffey joins me now. we have a lot of insight certainly from joe deters on this but looking at the history of cincinnati and i think the brother abreu alluded to this in talking about what happened in 2001, let me just remind our viewers what happened in cincinnati in 2001 they had riots, looting and protests after a police officer shot and killed an unarmed black man
surprisingly been suspended but it doesn t present the larger question of training and the prosecutor alluded to a couple times and along with the importance of video cameras, what about training? so the first impulse of an officer not to use the maximum force but to find a way to deescalate? maybe there needs to be more effective training. hearing the fact it wasn t a situation where an officer based on the video should have even used a taser. so now i want to let our viewers know, we are going to xla the extended clip of what happened with that police stop and if we could go ahead and ditch the breaking news banner? yes. so the viewers can see this in full. this is the complete unedited version that shows the police officer drawing his weapon and shooting at sam dubose. okay. actually, it is. i m going to ask you again, do you have a license on your you?
because again, it would have become public. i wanted to keep it within law enforcement at all times. going back to whether the officer what the officer said. once he did talk did he say in that statement he was dragged or was that just a knee-jerk reaction at the beginning? did he stick to that story? i can t talk about his statements. okay. we re going to show this to you. it should take about probably ten minutes maybe at the most. right, peggy? okay. there s audio with that too? at the beginning there s no audio. then he turns on the audio switch. anybody have any questions for me yet? done? okay. again, if you re just joining us, we ve been listening to joe deeters, the hamilton county prosecutor and they re about to
sometimes if you get a goofy judge, they say oh you just charged them with murder. i m not going to give a lesser included instruction. so we always back them up just in case the judge won t let us argue a lesser included offense. joe, i know you said that a warrant has been issued for him. his attorney make any arrangements that he will turn himself in here? i don t know. i just i told our investigators to find him. okay. thank you. okay. so we ve been listening to joe deeters here the hamilton county prosecutor that is dealing with the case that is now moving forward after the grand jury returned a murder indictment against the university of cincinnati police officer ray tensing. this is the body camera video that has just been released and you can see here that the officer is trying to open the door of the vehicle of sam dubose. we have chosen out of an