former president trump and his supporters and party as whole are making it their whole focus in life, what they re doing in politics, to undermine the last election, undermine the idea of elections as definitive statements of the will of the people at all. their most important task right now, litmus task for support for republican politicians by the former president is if he they promote this fiction that president trump wasn t really voted out of office. when cnn posted that audio of giuliani s call to the ukrainian government, reporters said the call was one of the opening salvos in the year s long quest by trump and his allies to subvert the 2020 election and damage biden. lying about voter fraud, attempting to overturn the results and inciting the deadly
that s kind of you to say. it s mostly the solar array. but i ll take it. well done, my friend. all right. thanks to you at home for joining us, happy to have you here this monday night. we start with news first broken by rivals across town at cnn. cnn today obtained audio of a 2019 phone conversation between rudy giuliani and an adviser to the president of ukraine. in that conversation which took place in 2019, mr. giuliani can be heard pressuring the ukrainian government their president must publicly announce a sham investigation into some alleged wrongdoing by joe biden. if that sounds familiar, then president trump made the exact same demand of the president of ukraine three days after this call happened. july 25th, 2019, conversation,
be put on ice. it would not come through until he did what trump needed to make sure he was well positioned against biden in his reelection effort in 2020. in making this sort of extortionate play against ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky, trump also refused to grant zelensky something he was desperately seeking at the time which was a meeting at the white house. obviously, ukraine was at war with russia, both then and now. it was desperately important to ukraine not only that they get u.s. aid but that the whole world could see that the united states of america was on ukraine s side and standing with ukraine in their conflict with russia. trump held all that back and said no, no, no. not unless you help me in my domestic reelection campaign by smearing joe biden. that call happened between
that i don t think you ve seen, something senator manchin very much should see, this is new polling that was just done for a group trying to pass the for the people act. they work specifically to get anonymous, dark money out of politics. polled west virginia voters, margin of error plus or minus four points. on the covid relief, which he voted for, wildly popular among the west virginia voters. 64% support in west virginia, that s huge. then they polled on biden s infrastructure bill, american jobs act, another bill that manchin won t vote for unless republicans vote for it too, regardless of why. it s even more popular. covid relief has 64% support. infrastructure bill is even higher.
can democracies deliver real results for our people? can they? can the democratic system of government show its up to meeting the moment? president biden has articulated this over and over again, that this is our job in the world right now to show that democracies can do. show that democracy isn t acquaint but defunct means of government. that s too messy to actually do things that countries need to do in the modern age. that s the case being made by the rising autocracies and authoritarian governments across the world, largely by russian by china. right? the united states, under president biden is trying to be not only the loudest voice against authoritarianism in the world but the best example of why the authoritarian model is wrong. and not as good as democracy at delivering for its people. the problem with this is we do actually need to be a good example of governing ourselves