clearly congressman devon nunez, even though removed from investigation related to steele and russia is still conducting his own personal investigation related to steele and only yesterday sent subpoenas to fusion gps, a washington private investigations research firm which hired christopher steele to gather information on trump initially for a republican supporter i believe of jeb bush, then later for the clinton campaign. committees are doing things but not necessarily things that complement each other shall we say. mark hosenball, national security correspondent for reuters, i respect your work and have for a long time. thanks for being here. thanks for having me. jodi kantor, new york times reporter who broke the harvey weinstein story after many tried and failed.
new outlets took a shot at that story over the course of more than a decade. jodi kantor is the one who finally did it and got it to press. jodi kantor is here tonight. so it s a big show tonight. over the past few weeks, there have been increasingly detailed and frequent reports about some ethics trouble for a number of trump cabinet secretaries, including interior secretary ryan zinke. reports have found that he charged the taxpayers to fly him on private jets to do things like give an inspirational speech to a hockey team owned by his biggest contributor and to fly him to an awesome snorkeling tour that he took in the environmevirgin islands. and he also charged taxpayers to
and which makes it a corporate story, which makes it a systemic story, but also makes it you re sort of unraveling the playbook about how these things get hidden, not just entertainment industry. the system seems so broken. settlements are kind of our society s way of dealing with sexual harassment. it means the women can t tell anybody about what happened. they can t warn other people, whereas the people who were accused of harassment, they get to pay money and the record is wiped clean. it s not their money that s being paid. it s not even that much money. if you look at what we were able to find that weinstein paid to these women over the years, it s like $80,000, $100,000. this is compared to movies that were making hundreds of millions of dollars at the box office. jodi kantor, can you stay right there for a second? yes. we ll be right back with jodi kantor right after this.
deneed any d deneed ad denied any allegations of noncon sensual sex. but beyond just the record of his behavior, this is a story after time after time, women coming forward for years, finding all different ways to raise red flags and all the different ways they were silenced, paid off and bullied into going away until finally that stopped working. joining us now for the interview is jodi kantor, the new york times investigative reporter. she broke the story about him this week. congratulations. thank you. it s great to be here. how come you were able to break this story after so many years of so many different people trying to and failing to get this to print? i can t talk about anybody else s reporting but i can talk a little bit about ours. first of all, the times has had a huge commitment to sexual harassment this year, we did the bill o reilly stories, the silicon valley stories and we felt like we had a play book on how to figure these out.
farrow reported, sexual assault, that was constructed around systems to get all these women wome women which involved other people. it involved creating appearance of work meetings, but in fact when the women got to what were explicitly designated work meetings, they said something very different happened inside. jodi kantor from the new york times, investigative reporter who broke this story, congratulations on breaking this. i know it was a daunting thing to approach, if only because of all the other people who tried to get there before you and didn t. but you re the one who did and broke it open and it s a deservedly huge story. congratulations. thank you. we ll be right back. stay with us. just like the people who own them, every business is different. but every one of those businesses will need legal help as they age and grow. whether it be help starting your business, vendor contracts or employment agreements. legalzoom s network of attorneys can help you every step