without evidence, nothing physical, to be a man who abused her and whom she had to kill to save her own life. how does that feel? right. well, it infurrates me but again, put her story on the side. the defense team has had five years to find a man or a woman or a child that would say travis was even a jerk to them. you ve got la vital and other expert witnesses reading their crystal ball, speaking for other people, but nobody the defense in five years couldn t find anyone that could corroborate this story from that jody is alleging. that s what i m talking about. put all this story aside, is there anything evidence of travis abusing anybody ever? the answer is no. shepard: we ll see what the jury has to say. chris hughes, all the best. we ll watch it with you.
client. i prepare them for the worst and hope for the best, other attorneys are more optimistic. if i m jody, i m telling here the likelihood in this just addiction is you re going to get convicted and hopefully of a lesser count and there are appeals and you keep calm and professional as possible. shepard: the good and the bad. you re the defense for jodi arias, your client over 18 days on the stand. what i hope is she made a connection. i hope the last couple days there were three jurors, don t be surprised if they re men. one thing people presume is the women are softer. often that s not the case, especially when dealing with a female defendant. you re hoping in those 18 days she related to somebody and some guy is saying i m holding out for manslaughter. let her do her 7 to 21 years. that s a lot of time. i m not getting involved with the death penalty and that s what you call a compromised
either of which either of those two decisions would result in a sentencing which would happen at a later date. if the jury decides she s guilty of murder in the first degree, in other words, murder with malice and forethought or planning, then they would begin a sentencing phase right away. the jury would go back and decide whether they want to have a mini-death penalty trial. that would be during the sentencing phase. sentencing does not happen today under any circumstance. but the verdict, we ll know that in less than an hour and a half. let s get to dan springer live at the courthouse. they ve deliberated 16.5 hours which makes it more than o.j. and more than florida and more than them combined. reporter: more than anybody around here thought. so many people thought that was a clear case of first-degree murder, that the jury would come back quickly but 15.5, 16.5 hours. let me make one quick adjustment. if they find her guilty of first-degree murder they go into an agg
away for the holiday weekend. i m bill hemmer. welcome to america s newsroom. . martha: i m doing well. thank you. what a story. i m martha maccallum. good morning, everybody. the lawyers for oscar pistorius reading his affidavit this morning. he shot his girlfriend by mistake he claims, pumping four bullets into the bathroom door thinking she climbed in through the window in the bathroom and was a robber. bill: starting to set up his defense as you can tell. amy kellogg live in london. what else did we learn in court today, amy. reporter: bill, the magistrate in the pretoria court decided this thud be dealt as a schedule 6 case. that means premeditated murder. that means oscar pistorius will unlikely be able to get bail. premeditated, the prosecution said he had to get out of bed, attach his prosthetic legs and walk seven yards to the bathroom where steenkamp, reva steenkamp, was locked in cowering in fear after an argument. pistorius in an affidavit red out today dispute
0 we have no guidance how long this will take. the trial may not get started for some time. bill: you say more court tomorrow, for what? reporter: well, this is the bail hearing and it was just a morning hearing today. so there will be more discussion about whether or not oscar pistorius should be granted bail in this interim period before the trial starts. it s a trial, bill, by judge and possibly an assess sore or two. they don t have juries in south africa. it is a different system and it will continue tomorrow morning. bill: there are bullet headlines. amy kellogg watching that from london. martha. martha: let s give you more context on premeditated murder charges in south africa. their murder is defined as the unlawful, intentional killing of another human being. if he is convicted pistorius face as mandatory life sentence, though under south african law he would be eligible for parole in 25 years at the latest. ceremony. she claimed they were just friends at the time. february