that lease there s a clash between the united states and the muslim world. but even on a pragmatic basis it basically fails. we re talking about really such tiny fractions. when we look at this kind of thing as other people pointed out these countries have not been sources of terrorist attacks on u.s. soil over the last ten years but more to the point is we re really doing taking actions that impact hundreds of thousands or millions of people to deal with a problem that can be counted in handfuls. and to stay with you just for a moment, jm berger, the white house in this cve, this counterterrorism document, are excluding american terrorists, white nationalist groups, etc., from their designation in terrorism in terms of trying to counter violent extremism. you wrote about that today. can you expound on that? yeah. we only ever had a token presence of white nationalists in our counterextremism program.
meet donald trump. say in ear really in shock at the way donald trump treated malcolm turnbull, the prime minister of australia, it s such a stalwart ally of the united states at the time things are getting tense with china on a bunch of fronts. we talk about europe but there s also a brewing set of equities and problems in asia that that malcolm turnbull encounter has created real shock throughout the world, not just in japan but also in europe. the angela merkel kind of slap around was extraordinary for such a fundamentally important partner of the united states and europe and even the various questions of nato and i find it an interesting gap between the national security team like general mattis, general kelly and others that are trying to calm the waters and the white house itself which seems to be riling up the waters simultaneously. jm berger, australia isn t just a close ally, they fought with us in war after war but is
between the united states and the muslim world. but even on a pragmatic basis it bacally fails. we re talking about really such tiny fractions. when we look at this kind of thing as other people pointed out these countries have not been sources of terrorist attacks on u.s. soil over the last ten years but more to the point is we re really doing taking actions that impact hundreds of thousands or millions of people to deal with a problem that can be counted in handfuls. and to stay with you just for a moment, jm berger, the white house in this cve, this counterterrorism document, are excluding american terrorists, white nationalist groups, etc., from their designation in terrorism in terms of trying to counter violent extremism. you wrote about that today. can you expound on that? yeah. we only ever had a token presence of white nationalists in our counterextremism program. these programs are meant to
meet donald trump. say in ear really in shock at the way donald trump treated malcolm turnbull, the prime minister of australia, it s such a stalwart ally of the united states at the time things are getting tense with china on a bunch of fronts. we talk about europe but there s also a brewing set of equities and problems in asia that that malcolm turnbull encounter has created real shock throughout the world, not just in japan but also in europe. the angela merkel kind of slap around was extraordinary for such a fundamentally important partner of the united states and europe and even the various questions of nato and i find it an interesting gap between the national security team like general mattis, general kelly and others that are trying to calm the waters and the white house itself which seems to be riling up the waters simultaneously. jm berger, australia isn t just a close ally, they fought with us in war after war but is a close intelligence-sharing ally. how much of a risk
russia or somebody else. that s not comforting. jm berger, steve clemons and malcolm nantz, stay with me. joining me by phone is the attorney general of washington state bob ferguson. mr. ferguson, thank you for talking with me. i want to read you what pete williams is now reporting. he s reporting a department of homeland security official is saying the seattle judge s order will have no immediate practical affect. the official from the trump administration is saying all previously issued visas from the seven affected countries were canceled by last week s executive order so anyone hoping to come to the u.s. would have to go to consular offices and reapply for a visa and in the meantime the trump administration is likely to seek a stay of today s order. can you make sense of that for us? i m not sure thanks for having me on. appreciate it. i m not sure if i can make sense of the first part. what i can say in general at a high level is that the judge s decision today was very c