ancestors have respected in a certain period of history. they were paying jizya. thank god there was nothing of that. it was a condition for isis, but that s what, where we are. so here you are in london at an international conference in defence of religious freedoms around the world, but in particular, in countries where religious freedom is under threat. you, in the past, have seemed quite disappointed by some of the lack of support and assistance you ve received from western churches and western governments, and you appear to ascribe that to a fear in the west of upsetting islamic governments and islamic communities, a sort of fear of islam, being accused of islamophobia. do you still think that is present? yeah, still some governments feel it would be showing favouritism if they would help. you don t get the help