exceeded by the list of things that mike flynn did do and both lists are going to get him in very serious trouble before this is over. but, matt, the trouble is, if the president were to pardon general flynn now, general flynn then must testify about everything he knows because it s impossible for him to self incriminate himself. yeah. that s right but there s a very any prosecutor will tell you there s a big difference of a reluctant witness that can t remember a number of things because they don t want to implicate someone, and a cooperating witness when s looking to save themselves from jail time. i think it s a very different situation. ron, what about the possibility that the president communicates to general flynn, look, we are going to let your cases run their course, whatever happens but don t worry. in the end, there will be a pardon? you know, lawrence, i think that s already happened. i think that we saw over the course of the disclosures about the president s firi
a reluctant witness that can t remember a number of things because they don t want to implicate someone, and a cooperating witness when s looking to save themselves from jail time. i think it s a very different situation. ron, what about the possibility that the president communicates to general flynn, look, we are going to let your cases run their course, whatever happens but don t worry. in the end, there will be a pardon? you know, lawrence, i think that s already happened. i think that we saw over the course of the disclosures about the president s firing of jim comey that he basically told jim say, let him go. he s probably tweeted flynn s a good guy, a patriot. i think he is communicating that about his only way to communicate it more clearly is on your show and talking about it, lawrence. he is sending a message to mike flynn, part of the trump strategy here. no question about it. we have to leave it there for the moment. matt miller, thank you. really appreciate it. t
that, but as you heard jim say the white house is not directly talking about donald trump. the other democrats are talking about it on a fairly regular basis. isn t donald trump going to talk about it, odds are he ll be bated into it. democrats would like him to at some point. back to the president s plan, we are still waiting for details but it s clear he ll put out a plan to take executive action on guns. reporter: yeah, that s heard. donald trump will weigh in on tomorrow on cbs. what he s saying basically is he s opposed to it. th that s not a surprise, but take a listen. i don t like it. i don t like anything having to do with changing our second amendment. we have plenty of rules and regulations, there s plenty of thing they can do right now that are already there. they don t do them. we have a tremendous mental health problem, we re closing places all over the world, all over the country, but they re closing all over the world.
the steps he s taken since the paris attacks as well. the president wants to demonstrate how it s critical for americans to come together, uphold american values, in the words of this senior administration official, as the u.s. confronts these extremists who are trying to terrorize the entire world. there have been a lot of comments made in the political theater, with the election coming up, about muslim americans and their place in american society. and i can tell you from talking about people inside this white house, the president is very determined to send the message across the country that muslim-americans are just as american as the rest of us and should not be feared, poppy. thank you, jim. jim will be with us throughout the evening as we lead up to the president s history-making address. here to talk about what jim just discussed, the author of in the land of invisible women, and a national spokesman for the muslim community. it s such an important
17-year-old laquan mcdonald, shooting 16 times. that officer now charged with first-degree murder, awaiting trial. more on that later this hour. meantime, two hours from now president obama will try to reassure the nation that he has a plan to destroy isis and keep the american people safe in the wake of the attacks in san bernardino, california, and in paris. he will speak from the oval offices. that is a rare backdrop. he s only used it twice before during his entire presidency. both times back in 2010, when he spoke about the end of u.s. combat operations in iraq and about the bp oil spill. cnn senior white house correspondent tim acosta joining us with a previous of the president it s address. jim, you ve been working your sources, finding out what we might learn from the president tonight. reporter: that s right, poppy. this is an effort to show the president has commander in chief, reassuring americans about the fears that they re experiencing right now, in the heart of the h