it is not campaign money, no campaign finance lie violation. so they funneled it through a law firm. funneled it through a law firm and the president repaid it. oh, i don t know he did. i m not going to be rushed into having him testify so that he gets trapped into perjury. when you tell me he should testify because he s going to tell the truth, that s so silly because it is somebody s version of the truth. truth is truth. i don t mean to go like no, it isn t. i never said there was no collusion between the campaign. yes, you did. i said the president of the united states. there is not a single bit of evidence the president of the united states committed the only crime you would commit here, conspired with the russians to hack the dnc. joining us to talk about all of it, national political reporter for the washington post, jill coleman and chuck rosenberg. robert, let s start with you. you covered donald trump for a long time. you have covered rudy giuliani for a
there was no collusion between the trump campaign and russia, that there was collusion and robert mueller may have something on president trump and the president may have something during the campaign and then saying well, he really didn t know which gave the white house an awful lot of ammunition to shred his credibility. i think he doesn t know that for sure because he s incorrect. as we said many times before, there was no collusion with the trump campaign. even further on what his actions are, he hasn t worked at the white house so i can t speak to him or the lack of knowledge that he clearly has. reporter: again, nunberg worked for the campaign less than two months and again, sandra, he said to jill coleman from the associated press he d probably comply and he could be locked up in jail if he doesn t comply. we ll keep watching. sandra: we will indeed. john roberts, thank you.
as expressed during our initial review, we have grave concerns about material omissions of fact that impact the memo s accuracy. the justice department told nbc news that the issues raised in the memo are so highlies classified that they may not be in a position to point out errors or misleading statements. chris wray s decision to release the memo could put him in the cross hairs of president trump. jill, great to have you with us this morning. a lot to digest here this morning, especially with this bombshell report from the new york times that the president s former legal spokesman, mark corallo might be telling bob mueller of these new developments involving hope hicks. how big of a bombshell do you think this is this morning for the white house? how might they respond in the coming hours? look, mark coallo was in the conversation as this statement
wavered in my independence and my belief that justice would prevail. back with us, jill coleman. jill, good to see you once again. let s stay with the subject of the upcoming midterm elections. how optimistic are you that democrats could actually win control of the house or do you think it s too early to project a democratic wave here? deaf tfinitely, the democrat. we have a wave of people saying they re not seeking re-election. you have a growing list of democratic candidates raising quite a bit of money already waiting their installs, waiting to get out and challenge. it s still a really long time in washington speak before people actually seriously start considering these elections. nonetheless, you ve got a deeply un.popular president, you ve got deeply unpopular congress. but, on the other hand, you ve got this tax plan. and although polling so far has
telling us basically it s going nowhere at this had point. there s been gridlock on capitol hill. democrats say month. republicans are trying to kind of turn the president s pillars into some type of legislation. but folks on both sides of the aisle, advocates on both sides of the issues are stressing that there s no movement happening right mow. and we are approaching that deadline ever so fast. jill, we ll touch base with you a little bit later on in the program. thanks. thank you. and a scary day for some republican lawmakers. one person is dead after an amtrak train collided with a garbage truck in rural virginia wednesday morning. the white house said in a statement no members of congress or their staff were seriously injured in a crash. the train was carrying more than half the republican members of the house and senate to their annual policy retreat in west virginia. members of congress spoke to reporters about the crash and how lawmakers rushed to help at the scene. i c