egypt, at this point in time it is a civil unrest. in fact, technically, it s a jihadist insurgency. why? in a civil war, you have a divided army, a divided people, and those who are surging have control over areas. so what we have in egypt today is the army did not divide, you have tighters who aren t among the brotherhood. the people, actually, the maximum the brotherhood were able to gather and that s huge already one million. but the other side, 33 million. and thirdly, the brotherhood are not controlling a zone. the only zone they had, they lost. so they are, as the ambassador said, trying to push for a civil war or a confrontation so that they are legitimate internationally. martha: what did you think about what the president had to say about yesterday? you know, he said we can t take sides as the united states of america, but he did seem to condemn the actions of military. well, he did take sides, there s no doubt about it.