quote, the secret services text messages could provide insight into the agency s actions on the day of the insurrection and possibly those of president donald trump. a former white house aide last month told the house select committee investigating the assault on the capitol that trump knew his supporters were armed, wanted to lead the mob to the capitol and sheds he was told that he physically assaulted a senior secret service agent who told him he could not. joining me now to discuss, frank figliuzzi is the author of the fbi way inside the bureau s code of excellence, and msnbc legal contributor and former watergate prosecutor, jill wine-banks. she s also the co-host of the hashtag sister s podcast and the ig and politics podcast. frank, thanks for being here as well as jewell. start with you, rank. we don t have conflicting information about when the texts from january 5th and sixth were deleted, but the
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family members? i know he had hinted at a blanket pardon for the january 6th thing for anybody, but i think he had for all the staff and everyone involved, not with january 6th, but involved, not with january 6th, but just before he left office i know he had talked about that. the only reason i know to ask for a pardon is because you think you ve committed a crime. i m just curious really quickly, a quick whip around here, have you ever asked for a pardon. no. willie, what about you? not yet, but i retain the right to do so in the future. i know sam stein has not asked for a pardon yet. i have. the illegal hoarding of jewell, whatever they are, i m suspecting he may be asking for a pardon. no, mika, the point of course is why in the world do you