Maxine is blessing us spiritually today as if to fabulous books and who wrote a fabulous book. We are really excited to be focusing on something positive as we get closer and closer to an election part and as we get crazier and crazier locked inside of our homes. Loyalty exist to uplift. Minority voices, clear voices in our community and those we are honored your joining us tonight. Reclaiming her time, all things maxine water and the legend that is maxine. Reclaiming her time is funny. But it is also inspiring. Brings up a champion in the face of ridiculous injustice. Also, ridiculous injustice as our authors. We are honored to be joined today by Helena Andrews dyer a fulltime columnist at the Washington Post covering popular children culture in the capital, sometimes children. [laughter] i think its a misprint i think were at childrens childrens level, sorry well. [laughter] before joining the post helene it was a contribute editor at xo jane additional womens magazine founded by jan
Cases unjust way and you dont have those that pick up the fruit that falls d from the tree and make jam out of it and i have in my role as an activist been more were tree shake that one that picks up a fruit and becomes one a leg to the office or head of a corporate entity in the private sector and i think theres a legitimate role for both i feel my calling is to be the one shaking trees rather than picking up fruits trying to make jam out of lets get to the jam eaters in a 2nd this book in this book you blame yourself and others becoming complacent under the Obama Presidency at tell me a bit about that and how you see that complacency is creating donald trump well i think that many of us were very supportive then are still supportive of many of the initiatives of president obama during his presidency from health care to Police Reform to other areas and did not do as much as we could to hold the opposition accountable and to hold even some aspects of his own administration that was res
National Action Network the initials of behind you that running joining the Obama Presidency i know time and time again in the book you talk about it is a model of grassroots action at the very local level to help a civil rights and social justice no i have we definitely were very active during is 8 years Trayvon Martin we were out on the front lines of that from the beginning as well as the ferguson killing in ferguson missouri Michael Brown in aragon all of that happened during the obama era what im saying is that we could do even more and i think that thats what i challenge that we should never even modify what we do and i think we were very active but i think we could have been more active while everyone knows you did you did a lot because we had we had one of the top trumps pastas. A guy called Darrell Scott he said that trump has been the most pro black president ever and of course he reminded us how black lies might have began under the a bamma presidency when those horrific Pol
Eulogy to george floyd killed by a us police i think british broadcasting regulators may allow me to say what a profound privilege it is for you to be on going underground but of course im going to ask you why is it not you rather than biden who is running against trump why do you call yourself a tree shaker in this new book of yours. I think that the history of dealing with movements in this country and even globally is that you need those of us that shake the tree in the sense of shaking up where a society has dealt in an unequal and unfair way and in many cases unjust way and you dont have those that pick up the fruit that falls d d from the tree and make jam out of it and i have in my role as an activist been more were trees shake their wonder picks up a fruit and becomes want to lead to the office or head of a corporate entity in the private sector and i think theres a legitimate role for both i feel my calling is to be the one shaking trees rather than picking up fruits trying to
Colonist, contributor to the wall street journal at the manhattan institute, fox newsey contributor among your books i want to begin where your book concludes because you say the following quote, liberalism as succeeded tragically in convincing blacks to see themselves first and foremost as victims. Yes, i believe that is a big part of a political strategy actually. They have been added for some time and unfortunately they have had a lot of success in painting blacks as primarily f victims ad as defined by their demise asian first and foremost and then thei followup of course is that we have a Government Program or government solution to help you overcome your victimhood so its a political strategy. Your book writes about this and they have been a number of essays in Lyndon Johnson in the Great Society and wasnt a failure or success . I think if you look at the actual track record of the program and if you look at the goals that the objectives that were stated at the time you would hav