jason, he s my boss. he s hard on me. for the record, he s about six pounds more than i am. the relationship i have with john fisher is beyond just a professional one. we re also friends. we keep each other straight. i give him a hard time every chance i get. and if i ve gone more than a day or two without giving him a hard time, i come up with a reason. john can work them out, too. yeah, this place very health conscience. they re of similar stature, we say. a bright light behind them and looking at the silhouette, you wouldn t though them apart. jerry, you re the director of this program. what is it, the group of you do? well, the department of correction, internal affairs division, is the police entity for the prison system in the state of tennessee.
camodes. hey, george pickle. i m going to say your name loud in case the slaw looking for you. i have respect for her. we have played the cat and mouse game on numerous occasions. if she catches me doing something, she s going to bust my ass and i ve seen that. i ve seen her giving advice that only a mother would give. but at the same time, with the sternness to let you know you have a spanking coming if you don t take that advice. valerie, jerry mentioned sometimes you ll use just motherly advice. how are you treated by the inmates? is it different because you re a woman? well, sometimes, yes, it is. you know, i do use that mother role on them. you know, i have grown kids. and so when i deal with them, i talk to them sometimes like they re mine. and they listen to me. you have some that listen. they just need that motherly advice. jason, what s the difference in relationships? when you re in there, is it important that you are different from the guards, that you can develo
for example, this one was a brace on the back of a chair. now this is a sticker or a bleeder. a sticker or a bleeder. if someone was really going to use it for business, they would have something to hold it to their hand so that it doesn t come loose in the knife like that. i can t be alone in thinking that as long as we ve had prisons that you would look at a bookshelf, jerry, and say this bookshelf won t use, i has metal pipes on the back and someone will take it and make a shank. you have to teach yourself to be aware at all time of anything that an inmate might use to make a weapon from. while we have actually found firearms inside the facilities, inmates have the ingenuity to actually manufacture they re own type of firearm. as you re aware, most firearms only need a shell, something to actually hit the firing pin and
so, you just can t place the blame on the correction officer or the dirty staff member. yeah, we ve got those. but a lot of it comes through majority comes through the visitation. if i m a family member, jerry, and i try to smuggle in a cell phone and i get caught, what s the penalty for me? you will be prosecuted. for what? for attempting to to smuggle contraband into an institution. i could end up in prison? absolutely. what kind of sentence do you get for that? what s my risk? well, there s a lot of factors, if you ve ever had a charge before or conviction, you can go anywhere from one to three years. if you never have been convicted of a felon before, you may just get parole or probation. crime in prison. our remaining moments with our guests right after this. t of yo. fight it with new. it combines extra strength bayer aspirin to treat pain plus an alertness aid to help you get off to a running start.
good evening. i m sitting in for larry who is on vacation. we welcome jerry lester, director of internal affairs for the tennessee department of corrections, jason woodall, special agent in charge, internal affairs for the tennessee department of corrections, sergeant valerie hampton, ings constituti hampton, institutional investigator known for her ability to find drugs and other contraband. and john fisher, special agent internal affairs for the tennessee department of corrections. all four star in the new a & e documentary series the squad: prison police. and when it comes to investigating crimes, police have it tough enough on the outside. on the inside, it s a whole other story. watch jason and john at work. this is a clip from the squad.