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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 07:54:00

it shefali luthra is a health care reporter for the 19th, an independent news organization, where he has been covering the political backlash in the wake of the dobbs decision. and she joins me. now shefali, minnesota is an interesting case. it is not a swing state in the same way that wisconsin is. but donald trump came very close in 2016, quite famously. and it is an interesting test case of how the politics of this are playing their. and it seems like jensen is aware that he is not on the right side of this right now. i think you are correct. and what we see in minnesota is the latest example in a trend we have seen we have seen republican candidates in arizona, north carolina, in michigan, tried to backtrack from their professed desire to ban abortion, often all circumstances, often with no exception for rape or incest. many things have changed right now. this is a general election, not a primary. the overturn of roe v. wade is no longer theoretical. it is real.

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:56:00

interesting case. it is not a swing state in the same way that wisconsin is. but donald trump came very close in 2016, quite famously. and it is an interesting test case of how the politics of this are playing their. and it seems like jensen is aware that he is not on the right side of this right now. i think you are correct. and what we see in minnesota is the latest example in a trend we have seen we have seen republican candidates in arizona, north carolina, in michigan, tried to backtrack from their professed desire to ban abortion, often all circumstances, often with no exception for rape or incest. many things have changed right now. this is a general election, not a primary. the overturn of roe v. wade is no longer theoretical. it is real. and there is all sorts of reasons that you want, if you are republican, to avoid adopting such an unpopular position. but what i want to emphasize is that this is not new for the

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:54:00

some of gone to great lengths to hide the previously stated positions. here s the latest example. republicans da scott janssen. jensen is running for governor of minnesota, also currently running as fast as you can away from his previous extreme positions on its portion. here s what he told minnesota public radio just in march. if you were governor, would you try to impose new restrictions on abortion? bennett [inaudible] outright ban abortion i think we are basically in a situation where we should be governed by there is no reason for us to be having abortions going on. i would try to ban abortion. there is no reason for us to have abortions going on. weird syntax but very clear, very straightforward. black and white. that guy right now trails his opponent, incumbent democratic governor tim walz by 18 points. what we should take pulling within enormous grain of salt

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