but he s not going to do the deal, not on this roll call. maybe not today. chris jansing, my colleague is going to take over this roll call. watch with steve kornacki. this has been an extraordinary day already. we have another flip here. we knew it was going to be historic. steve kornacki, what did we just seethe? i want to go back to steve. what are we looking at? mary miller from illinois, another one of the holdouts, she also flipping over and voting for mccarthy. that means there have been 13 folk who is have voted against mccarthy previously and now 7 of those 13 have flipped over. so he s actually of the votes cast by previous mccarthy opponents in this roll majority over. he s gotten more than half of them. 7 of the 13 have flipped over. paul gosar will vote at the end. he has seemed pretty dug in, but we ll see what happens there. the next name to come on the list is ralph norman. we re about 15 names away from him. very rapid fire after that. scott perry, chair
so 9 have flipped over to mccarthy. six have continued to vote against mccarthy. we have two who did not vote when their name was of called. they will return to them a at the end of this roll call. we will see what they do. rosen dale, one of the four haldouts. we ll get to rosendale pretty quickly. we re six names away. roy will come in rapid fire after. roy has been really playing a big role in negotiations over the last 24 hours. so did they win chip roy over? is the fact that so many have already voted for mccarthy an indication they won chip roy over. a lot of folks were say figure they could get chip roy, he would bring with him a bunch of votes. let me break in. a few seconds before rosendale, let s bring in garrett haake. give me your perspective. our teams reported there
would be 213 total votes for mccarthy. which would put him over hakeem jeffries the democrat. that s a symbolic threshold. he still needs to get to the actual majority to win. that would be the first ballot that mccarthy finishes above jeffries and again if there are two republican absences, if every democrat is there, that means you have 432 voting members. there s a vacant seat here. the magic number was with 432 voting members is 217. so if he finishes with 213 here, mccarthy would go into the subsequent ballot, if you have the same come ogs in the chamber, he would be four away from the speakership. so that list goes through it, you look at the names. could he get a biggs or a boebert or a gaetz or a good? that seems unlikely had needs to
the magic number with everybody voting. and that would mean with 220 republicans present on any future vote, mccarthy could afford three defections. so far there are seven. there could be as many as nine. we ll see when they come back around. how does this change the momentum for mccarthy? does it make it significantly or even anymore likely that what dusty johnson will come to pass and will get the votes? the sandwich metaphor has been has everyone thinking about lunch as a possible break when they count these votes. but i think this changes the equation in terms of momentum for mccarthy. what he got in this group that flipped is those who have been best able to describe their policy differences with him. the ones who had specific complaints about the way they thought he might run the house. that s scott perry and chip roy, some of the others who articulated what their complaints are. mccarthy appears to be well on
but he s not going to do the deal, not on this roll call. maybe not today. chris jansing, my colleague is going to take over this roll call. watch with steve kornacki. this has been an extraordinary day already. we have another flip here. we knew it was going to be historic. steve kornacki, what did we just seethe? i want to go back to steve. what are we looking at? mary miller from illinois, another one of the holdouts, she also flipping over and voting for mccarthy. that means there have been 13 folk who is have voted against mccarthy previously and now 7 of those 13 have flipped over. so he s actually of the votes cast by previous mccarthy opponents in this roll majority over. he s gotten more than half of them. 7 of the 13 have flipped over. paul gosar will vote at the end.