of people to look after them in other countries. so if this place becomes dangerous and the people that are already displaced here, they ll just have nowhere else to go. all right. thank you. reporting live from ukraine. joining me now is senator jeff murkily of oregon. member of the foreign relations committee. senator, thank you first of all for being with us tonight. president biden is preparing for a trip to brussels later this week for nato summit. press secretary tweeted earlier that biden will not travel to ukraine. while he s over seas. he s been able to put together an unprecedented support of nato allies and it seems that he s been able to really get a the west united against russia on
interference did not cease there would be consequences. is that a good idea? i don t really know. it seems there s a lot of arguments we have on both sides. and here with me now a u.s. senator who s been focused on elections for years and one of the cosponsors democratic senator jeff murkily of oregon. what do you think of this idea, of some sort of preemptive digital cyber warning shot to russian actors to kind of warn them off further interference? well, i think envisioned in a similar frame to the deter act which is past the senate which says, look, if you mess around in our elections there s going to be significant consequences. the deter act lays out those consequences in terms of additional sanctions. in this case what more or less is being said we ll have a special cyber unit that will prevent cyber consequences for
senator jeff murkily of oregon. what do you think of this idea, of some sort of preemptive digital cyber warning shot to russian actors to kind of warn them off further interference? well, i think envisioned in a similar frame to the deter act which is past the senate which says, look, if you mess around in our elections there s going to be significant consequences. the deter act lays out those consequences in terms of additional sanctions. in this case what more or less is being said we ll have a special cyber unit that will prevent cyber consequences for key actors inside russia. the details just aren t really clear to me yet exactly the extent of what they re talking about or the impact or the breadth of it. but the idea of saying to russia you mess with our election,
rucker and laura lopez. so phil, now i m told jeff murkily and there s a reason we re listing only those democrats not running. what do hickenlooper, hensley and merkle, what underserved markets do they fill? i think more importantly they re going to be advocates for particular issues. in the case of ensly as you saw in his interview a couple of hours ago on this network with rach rachel m rachel maddow he cares hugely on
this is such an enormous lift we have to make a commitment this we have to use our capital first andfore most-fighting climate change, and i m the only candidate committed to that. that s the former governor of the state of washington. he s one of the latest democrats to announce plans to run for president. he joins former governor john hickenlooper from colorado as the most recent candidates. at least 12 democrats have launched bids for president. and you could fill a bust for those launching a bid for president. thankfully back with us are phil rucker and laura lopez. so phil, now i m told jeff murkily and there s a reason we re listing only those democrats not running.