this whole case is like a of everything wronged with criminal justice system, you have race, the difference of wealth and poverty and junk science of to a degree that is so shocking, the idea that this guy was allowed to testify in court at all, you know, the supreme court 20 years ago said we re going to try to establish some rules that not everybody can pretend to be an expert. a famous case called daubert. this guy should never have been allowed he s a practicing psychologist. he sees patients. worked with this young man for six months. you have to use techniques that are peer reviewed. there is no such thing as affluenza. there is no disease that 80% of us have. that was a disgrace, that guy. the idea he was allowed to testify, much less have a judge believe him and rely on him is really pretty shocking. mark geragos, what is your take on this? well, look, the he clearly can testify, jeff knows that. he s a clinical psychologist. remember something, we re not
you did with the psychologist that the judge can pull them and put him into prison at some point. i throw down the gauntlet and hope this kid is resistant, you will do exactly that and report that to the judge because you cannot mince around with this. if this kid that killed four people, let s not mince words here, he killed four people because of alcoholism and his disorder and he suffered from some syndrome where his money had an influence on the fact of this terrible case, but if he does not motivate, does not participate, he needs to go back to prison. jamison, what will happen? you see him staying there how long? if, in fact, he comes to newport academy, what is prescribed by the courts and psychologist is at least a year in treatment, and i really appreciate the comment about the fact two years in rehab, everyone can agree is better than two years in prison, right? i m not saying it s better one could argue
we have a system of justice in the united states where we don t take the people that have been offended and have them string you up or lynch him or whatever you want to choose to do, whatever they choose. because it sounds like they want some revenge, and we take i think they want justice. who had experience and we sometimes do a jury, sometimes a judge, and that s the way our system works, and it worked this time, i think. dr. miller, i do appreciate your perspective and i appreciate you coming on. thank you, sir. thank you, anderson. we ll put the whole interview online because it actually went longer before it went on air as we taped it. joining me now is cnn senior legal analyst mark geragos and jeffrey toobin. what did you make of dr. miller and affluenza?
well as ruined the lives of a number of other people, as well. what consequence, what consequence is there for him telling four people? for ten years, the judge will have the discretion at any time she chooses to send this kid to the penitentiary. this same judge sentenced a 14-year-old not affluent african-american to ten years after punching someone and knocking them down and hitting their head. this judge sent that 14-year-old to the texas juvenile department for ten years, and that kid is going to be in there until they are 19 years old, and if they violate their rehab program while in there, they may go to the adult justice system. so why is that okay for a 14-year-old poor kid, but for a 16-year-old well off kid, they get to go have equine therapy? does that seem fair? there actually are black people who have money, anderson. i don t know why you continue to
0 but this idea of combining the old with the new may allow you to ditch your card-filled wallet. dan simon, cnn, san francisco. and our thanks to dan simon, thanks for joining us. i ll see you tomorrow starting at 4:00 p.m. eastern on the lead. lead. ac 360 starts right now. captions by vitac www.vitac.com he wasn t just a relative, he was the mentor. at one time his number two guide, the second most powerful person in the country is being called a trader to the nation. a sensational murder trial squeechs to a halt before closing arguments begin. why the newlywed accused on pushing her young husband off a cliff eight days after the wedding cut a deal with prosecutors. the sentence many are calling a 16-year-old ethan couch killed four people while drunk driving but got off this week with no prison time at all. his lawyers argued and the judge agreed couch was a victim of his family s wealth, a victim of something a doctor called affluenza, what we know is a completely, wel