manufacturers, there are programs run by state governments, nonprofits, local pharmacies. and many of those programs are listed on the jdrf website, jdrf.org. dana? dana: thank you, jonathan. let s bring in a researcher on drug pricing at memorial sloan kettering hospital in new york. you were watching that with me and nodding your head. this is a story you ve heard before? absolutely. this is a real policy failure. prices patients are paying for drugs are based on the list prices of the insulins as they re sold. so rebates are not, many patients have high deductible health plans and they re performing these enormous sums that go up every year. dana: for the woman saying she s a diabetic, she s been for 14 years. it s hard to listen to. that shouldn t be happening in america. as jonathan said, there s a new policy coming forward by the trump administration. should that help? it should in the long run.