Follow all global norms, and so that is that the one response we got. thank you so much for being with us. that wraps up the our for me. you can reach me on twitter and instagram. be sure and follow the show online. jd bough lard, msnbc. katy tur picks up with more news right now. good to be with you. i am katy tur. it s 8:00 a.m. eastern, and 11:00 pawic. the u.s. secretaries of state and defense meeting with ukrainian president zelenskyy in kyiv, and he s expressing his gratitude and said talks lasted