about that there might be some surreptitious audio that would tell us something about the fate of khashoggi, the president saying he has not personally seen those. hopefully that s going to change in the days to come. kelly o donnell, good to you have with me. thank you. for more i want to bring in jordan fabian and jay newton small and andrew. andrew, we heard from the president that s to be determined as far as severe punishment. we also got reaction on khashoggi. i want to play that and we ll talk about it. he perhaps won t be or isn t around and that s very sad. i think we would have known by now. that was our first hope. our first hope is that he was not killed, but maybe that s not looking too good. right? from what we re hearing. a lot still to learn i think, mr. the. mr. president. but there s a lot to learn.
ago. we ve heard the kind of mixed messaging when it comes to the president, well, i don t know, i don t know what the form of punishment should be, i don t know what we should do to severe punishment. jay, sorry. with donald trump, everything is tonal. you saw this in the conference he just gave talking about his relationship with turkey. freeing this pastor really switched his opinion of turkey and turned him more optimistic about their relationship. a lot of his messaging to saudi arabia is simply tonal. i m displeased with you, i m pleased with you. you saw this this week with the disappearance of jamal khashoggi.
rochelle richie, former house secretary for house politicians and communications committee. it s not starting with jay. it s not the first time we ve heard of celebrities and musicians wading into politics, what a different approach. really one side kanye, other side taylor swift. reminds me of how different it was with the river, remember when kanye took the stage for the vma. now we have them on opposite ends when it comes to this. it is. it s striking, you know, i remember ten years ago covering the obama campaign, and john mccain sort of accusing barack obama of being a celebrity sort of like paris hilton and everyone being like, ooh, that s such a burn. being a celebrity, there s nothing worse in politics. it s considered so outside the politics at that point. here we are ten years later, we re in the midst of this sort of reality tv presidency, and celebrities are everywhere. i mean, again, i remember campaigning with john edwards,
includes the reality that as early as tuesday, september 11th, the mueller team and the manafort team were negotiating. so if there s anything that s been told that has to do with either that trump tower meeting or russian conspiracy, that has been told by paul manafort to the mueller team because there s no way they would have let him negotiate to only two counts versus the multiple ones he was originally looking at. jay, help me understand sort of how paul manafort finds himself at this point. katie talking about what will be expected of him over these coming months. this is a guy who was living lavishly. as part of this arrangement, he s having to get rid of some property. he s going to trade his house in easthampton for the poor house, i gather. he s giving up a lot of assets. david, yes. just this one sort of deal pretty much pays for the entire investigation, so the president s criticism that the investigation is too expensive, well, they ve recouped a lot of that from paul m
nominations, meaning a nominee for the new attorney general, and he said this week plainly, he said, yeah, i think i would have time over the next few months for a nomination if that were to arise. so i think it was notable that we heard that from both graham and grassley this week. well on that very note, i do want to share what was said by the attorney general just this week in defense of what he s doing as well as department of justice. while i m attorney general, the actions of the department of justice will not be improperly influenced by political considerations. this in response to the president s interview on network cable tv. so jay, why now on opening and lindsey graham and chuck grassley. are they vying for the job? what is the difference right now and today if you will, than two weeks ago when we weren t hearing such talk from senators in. well i think i would be surprised if either wanted that job. i can t imagine many people in american want that job, to stand