a point, which the organizations that are behind the janus case are, you can find somebody who is willing to be a mraf.plainti mark is in the type of job that we want to protect, right? so when we re talking about protecting unions, we re really also in the public sector, we re talking about public services, like firefight, emt s. neil: and that would be next when you make the work force unstable you have much more chaotic on the front. strikes like in west virginia, oklahoma as opposed to collective bargaining at the table. neil: carla katz, good seeing you. don t make yourself a stranger. as we were speaking, we learned that the president spoke with prime minister justin trudeau of canada. i m sure what came up are the