court will take on the case or pass and let this trump era public health policy expire. if that is the question at the heart of this and there are big implications depending on which way the supreme court goes i want to bring in nbc news capitol hill correspondent, julie. it s become an immigration policy, but the question is if the supreme court decides to pass and title 42 is lifted, the concern is this surge of migrants at the border there s a political context and backdrop to this as well talk us through it i ve been tracking bipartisan negotiations over comprehensive immigration reform on capitol hill for the better part of last year, but even with democrats in control of the house and senate, obviously not those 60 votes they need, they were not able to get that done. so what will make the next congress different with republicans in control of the house? that s where the fear comes down to here. and not only do you have this surge on the border potentially going forwa
the next election to try to make sure your side is a better chance next time the people sell their differences at the ballot box. . you cannot turn violent and you cannot try to achieve desires through harassment or intimidation. and a real leader who sees that going down that path, approaching that line has a responsibility to say stop. we gave it our boost. we came up short. we try again next time. because we settle our differences at the ballot box. on december 14th, 2020, the presidential election was officially over. electoral college had cast his vote, joe biden was the president elect of the united states. by that point, many of donald trump s supporters were already convinced that the election had been stolen. because that s where donald trump had been telling them. so with donald trump was acquired to do in that moment, but would have been required of any american leader was to say we did our best and we came up short. he went the opposite way. he seized on the anger
concerned and neither of them responded nor communicated with secretary raffensperger about their statement calling on him to resign. it does highlight, ryan, reminding people how high tensions were and how much was at stake here in the days after the insurrection yeah, i don t think there s any doubt about that and i just came across something i think is pretty interesting. you mentioned, it was kind of spurred on by your thoughts about the steve mnuchin part about the 25th amend this was from eugene scalia and the committee asked him about a conversation he had with the wife of the senate minority leader, mitch mcconnell, and she was also a cabinet secretary at the time and the two of them discussed whether or not they were going to stay in office or whether they planned to resign at any point. and this is his answer to one of the questions. they had a conversation on january 6th and then a follow up conversation on january 7th and
like steven mnuchin, then the treasury secretary others involved in the january 6th effort, the plot to attempt to overturn the results of the legitimate 2020 election let me bring in ryan nobles and julie. can i be honest and transparent? this is one of these annoying things where this just dropped five minutes ago there are hundreds and hundreds of pages we are working through them as we are live on the air i have had the opportunity to look through a couple of them during the commercial break. some that stand out, ryan, we ll start with you, include then cabinet secretary, steven mnuchin. he was not in the country when the insurrection happened on january 6th, but it has been long reported that he was somebody, a member of the cabinet, who was talking about the 25th amendment to potentially forcibly remove and i say forcibly, by the cabinet, former president trump from power. mnuchin acknowledges he did have at least one conversation with
the rallies that took place when the president spoke at the ellipse on january 6th reporting over these 20 transcripts, just a lot here behind the scenes and how the committee came to their conclusions and identifying one man and one man only in the former president for january 6th. i was looking at brad raffensperger s transcript there s also that moment he talked about the threats he received he is telling the members of the committee first of all that even though he was called on to resign by then two is that rights in georgia, purdue and leffler and other, he said it ain t happening in a nutshell because he says he s a republican, but those were the results. sorry they were disappointed but it sounds like per my reading here, his wife, who was getting death threats, he says sexualized threats, the wife of the secretary of state of georgia, through her e-mail, phone number, information that is not out there publicly. she ended up texting the senators because she was