and then come january 6, 2025, when congress counts the electoral college votes, let congress decide if i m eligible to run. that sounds like a recipe for real instability. i hope the supreme court is not going to embrace that arlgment. it would give them an out, but it would set up the country for a dangerous period of time. jennifer, the court doesn t have to address all the issues. they could ignore whether this was an insurrection or not, can t they? they can. i think they ll decide on a ground common to all states. the plaintiffs here didn t have standing or there was some due process problem in colorado. that s not going to be good enough because there are other pending challenges. they don t want to just do something on the colorado case that doesn t apply to the other cases. but, sure, they could decide, for example, that the office of the presidency, as karen was saying, isn t included in the offices under this provision. and that would apply to all even on the insurre
so-called insurrectionist ban or whether the president incited an insurrection. they didn t narrow down the list of questions. so probably it is just too early. maybe we will get that order that will tell us. but, everything has to break the way of the challengers in order for trump to be off the ballot. there are just so many ways that the supreme court could decide to keep trump on the ballot. that the odds have got to be with trump here. but as i think about this, trump s opening argument is leave this to congress. that actually seems quite dangerous. let me run for office. let me win election. and come january 6, 2025, let s congress decide if i m eligible to run. that sounds like a recipe for real political instability. and i hope the supreme court is not going to embrace that argument. it would give them an out, but set up the country for a really dangerous period of time.
a few days ago about what republicans she said need to do. do you feel like there is a stiff enough spine of the party to stand up against future insurrections or are we worried about january 6 2025? know we definitely need stiffer spines. that is for sure. and i think that elected officials need to understand that words matter. and when you sort of see again and again people accepting things that are indefensible, we watch what happens in our society, when you accept things that you shouldn t, when you tolerate things like january 6, then that can vary easily become the new normal. it begins to be legal. and i think that is a big danger for us. and its funny to see her lurking the shadows there because in many ways her shadow was cast on these elections as somebody who even
seeing democratic back slide. on every continent emboldened autocrats are ramping up oppression. in my own country those who unleashed mob violence on our capital are still churning out misinformation and conspiracy theories. if we want democracy to flourish, we will have to fight for it. dan? that is exactly right. it is absolutely on the line here. i think michelle hits on an important point. it is very possible and even likely that the equivalent of january 6, 2025, we will be able to protect the capitol from a mob. that is something we know how to do, that we have never dealt with in this county is a precinct by precinct effort driven by the top levels of one of our political parties to try to deny the white house to the rightful winner of the electoral college and that is what is happening before us and it is