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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180528:03:35:00

boyfriend. here s keith morrison. the phone calls did not stop. mary ann mcfarland moved back home to archie, but her spurned lover, janos kulscar, wouldn t move on. my dad s like why does he keep calling? she s like i don t know. the whole aura of this guy is that he wasn t accepting it. in fact as da john lewin and detective jim wallace reviewed the evidence, they encountered a man who seemed obsessed, who first pleaded with mary ann, then began using language that sounded more threatening. i want you to come back to me kind of statements. then you better come back. she was afraid he would skin her alive, she told her daughter. skin her alive? if she didn t come back to him. but janos wouldn t stop calling or even making threats over the phone to archie. archie hung up on him. he called back immediately. you don t hang up on me. unless you call me back, i m

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180528:03:13:00

this. that s right, boyfriend. she d been having an affair with him. yes, off and on. his full name was janos kulscar, originally from hungary. once police got the gist of mary ann s tearful confession she had a picture of him, said here s his address. reporter: they high-tailed it to his apartment in nearby long beach. where they found his car, just about an hour after the murder, sitting all innocent-like, not far from his door. so the officers, having had some experience with this sort of thing, performed a little test to see just how innocent that car was. and the engine hood was hot to the touch, so it appeared that it had just been driven back. somebody had been pushing the old volkswagen bug pretty hard. so the cops laid low just across the street there and kept an eye on the car, found one just about like it in the apartment over

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180528:03:57:00

i don t know. i misunderstood your question. watching all this with mixed emotions was mary ann s son gary even after all these years their relationship has never fully recovered. it was tough on her. i know. i know she felt like she was on trial. but a lot of the stuff they went over and they pinned her on was to explain the mindset of janos and the whole circumstances that led to this. and it was necessary, but it was tough. finally, after three weeks, it was up to the jury to decide. then, after just two hours. has the jury reached a verdict? yes, we have. we the jury in the above entitled action find the defendant, janos kulcsar, guilty of the crime of murder. it was this relief.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180528:03:25:00

kind of a shock when you found out she was seeing him again? yes, yes, it was very difficult. how could she go back to the lover who gary was sure stabbed his father, her husband, and left him to die in the driveway? when i first found out, all ties were cut. i wrote her a letter, dropped it in her mail slot and as far as i m concerned, our relationship s over. mary ann accused janos of murder the day it happened, confronted him in jail and now here she was back with him. while they didn t actually move in together, they were certainly a couple, passion apparently undimmed. i just believe that, in her own mind, that it was okay to go back with him because there was really no proof that he did it. just how much mary ann knew, if anything, about janos role in her husband s murder, she wasn t saying, certainly not to her son, gary. but the rift in the relationship between mother and son now seemed irreparable. for gary, it was like he had lost both his parents. and years pass

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180528:03:39:00

back in 1985, but now he needed to know why not. he does the murder. where did he go next? i know this. when they got to his house he had wet clothing hanging in his bathtub. there was one pair of pants, one shirt. in other words, it s one outfit that needed washing that day, on the day he told us he was going to go to his brother s to do the wash. so what is it about this one outfit that needed a washing that day? back in 1985, those clothes were tested for blood, using a chemical called luminol. you spray it on the clothing, it will luminesce in those areas where you have body fluids. blood is body fluids. it turns out these pants were glowing in two areas, two important areas, but when they tested them for the presence of blood, they were negative for blood so something is there, but it s not blood. so now, two decades since archie mcfarland s murder, wallace found janos clothes. they were still in the evidence

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