some of the specific thass theyd here. that include d them saying donad trump and his fundraising effort collected $250 million after the election, going forward something they marketed as the official election defense fund. but one campaign staffer told the committee, and we saw this in a clip at the hearing yesterday, one campaign staffer said that that official election defense fund wasn t real. it didn t exist. that money, instead of going to election litigation, went to political causes that were not related. erica? certainly getting a lot of attention. appreciate it. thank you. joining me now to discuss, senior political correspondent, the anchor of inside politics sunday abby philips and janet rogers, a former federal prosecutor. abby, the news of the day, the hearing is being delayed, according to lofgren, because of technical issues. i have to be honest, my first thought is you have the former head of abc news producing this event. the technical issue is you re not getti