before the committees that oversee the justice department. nicole, i just think it makes it very difficult for the trump campaign, now the trump administration to argue that they were not aware that there were these russians circling around these people, they re calling them low level figures, i mean carter page popadopoul popadopoulos, carter page said i was just clearing it this with these just to avoid anywhere misunderstanding, but we heard that jamey gordon said he tried to block carter page from going to russia, because he realized it was a bad idea, it was a bad appearance, and that gordon went around him and we now know it was cory lew wan dlewen dow sky.