weeks. but clearly what he s talking about there is a time frame, they need to keep information under wraps. there he s talking about ivana trump. but guess what, it s followed by this conversation about the paemt payment to karen mckdougal. this could show this is what they re doing with that payment of karen mcdougal. there also could be potential fraud charges here. they re talking about setting up a company. i m guessing they didn t tell the bank the truth when they actually wrote the check, if they wrote a check. an llc exactly. there could be potential fraud on karen mcdougal if she was scammed thinking she was being paid for one thing but really being paid for another thing. i really think there s a whole host of crimes this could be evidence of contribute to. wow, that s a lot. that s exactly why we wanted you here tonight. jackie, i was just going through
since friday. some very good reporters were convinced friday there was but one such reporting. some very good reporters were convinced by rudy giuliani that on the recording we ve now heard it s cohen who initiates the idea we should pay this off in cash. that s right. weave to listen to the tape. there s going to be a fight over this tape. you already have both legal camps fighting about it. i asked giuliani tonight what s his mood like behind the scenes, is he enraged. and he said he s disappointed. jackie, i m reminded we heard from the president himself today there was a whole bunch of stories we re going to cover before the audiotape came out tonight. but let me just take two seconds and show you what he said speaking to the vfw about his achievements as president and what to believe and not believe. just remember what you re seeing and what you re reading is not what s happening. he also called the output of the fake news media, quote, crap, unquote. and on twitter earlie
they re talking about setting up a company. i m guessing they didn t tell the bank the truth when they actually wrote the check, if they wrote a check. an llc exactly. there could be potential fraud on karen mcdougal if she was scammed thinking she was being paid for one thing but really being paid for another thing. i really think there s a whole host of crimes this could be evidence of contribute to. wow, that s a lot. that s exactly why we wanted you here tonight. jackie, i was just going through my head the last time, and i don t think it s happened before, we have a senior member of an important west coast publication from the safe distance of washington reacting to news that broke in new york. that being our set of rules, what do you make early on now of the potential blow back on the president come morning? well, you ve just addresses the potential legal aspects of this.
so, jackie, where does this put us on a tuesday night heading on into wednesday morning? well, it puts us right back at the beginning. it was a week ago today that trump was cleaning up the mess he made the day before in helsinki standing side by side with vladimir putin. when he sided with the russian president, accepting his denials of any interference in our election, and subversion in our 2016 election and against the overwhelming unanimous conclusions of our intelligence community. and tuesday he s saying, no, no he meant he said would be when he meant wouldn t be. and he really believes his intelligence community. well, every day since then up to this tweet you just read he s given us more evidence, that, no, it s right back where he started from which is he doesn t accept the findings of the intelligence community. and so, you know, now we re faced with this situation where he s invited the president of russia to the white house. the president of russia seems to be demurring.
tonight giuliani was reached by telephone to talk with laura engram of fox news. the president does bring up cash but he says don t pay with cash. and then cohen says no, no, no, and the president says check, and cohen says i got it. the point is the president wants the transaction to be memorialized. i don t think anyone can suggest this represents the president did anything wrong. with that let s bring in our lead off panel on a tuesday night. robert costa, moderator of washington week on pbs. jackie combs, mimi roca, now a distinguished fellow of criminal justice, and emily jane fox with us in new york, whose new book is about the trump family. good evening and welcome to you