innovative is being peeled off before american companies even get it. you have to admire the chutzpah. laura: the american universities, i would say, are purposely ignorant. huge money. they love the foreign students coming in, too. they pay cash. one-third of all foreign students are chinese. laura: ivy league institutions, the university of california system, incredibly smart people. but they are looking to get our ip, as it s being developed. before our companies can get it. or the government. laura: sovereign wealth funds going in and investing early. another channel. all of this it seems to be controlled and targeted by the great topping china. we used to think this was free market companies laura: they have the china 2020 plan and this is part of it. used to be a conspiracy theory.