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Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 12:57:00

it. and i have to think it s one of the lies he repeated so many times it s become true in his own mind yeah, and part of the problem is that i don t know where that line is between believing it or not believing it. but general mark millie according or to your book had been on edge. milley saw trump as a classic authoritarian leader with nothing to lose. parallels between trump s rerhetoric about election fraud and adolph hit letter s insistence that he was a victim and their savior. this is the idea is that if donald trump believed he could do it and use the apparatus of state to achieve what he wanted which we saw with his attempt to cajole the president of ukraine. . the call to brad raffensperger in september and the call to attorney general jeff rossen, milley had the fear it could have no bounds. absolutely. and the fear was real and

Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 12:58:00

intensified as we got closer to january 6th. it wasn t just milley who had the concerns. the other leaders at the pentagon did as well. and milley and the joint chiefs, the heads of the army and air force and navy, the other branches of the military put together a plan of what they would do if president trump were to have issued some sort of order to the military as commander in chief that they considered unconstitutional or dangerous for the country. they were prepared to resign one by one in sort of a slow, steady succession of events all designed to delay the implementation of whatever illegal order came from the white house. remarkable book, phil. a lot of work by you and your colleague. thanks for joining us. phil rucker a senior correspondent with the washington post, msnbc political analyst and the author of the book i alone can fix it. more on velshi. i ll be jund by julian castro,

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