their competitors said come in and use our facilities, use our people, we ll help you get back on your feet. it was an american effort. it wasn t a securities industry effort and i was so proud of how the heads of our firms reacted. when they were told that, for instance, sandler and o neill needed trading space, lehman jumped up and said we ll give it to them. when cantor needed something, merrill-lynch jumped up and said, we ll give it to them. goldman sachs was there, all the major firms. morgan stanley, whatever we can do to help our traditional competitors who we under normal circumstances would love to see them disabled, okay. neil: and now, 20 years later, the big thing is the pandemic and getting back to work. most financial firms i think said they want their people back, the seener the better, don t delay it. others are saying we deened ma