country. so his invitation of a foreign power to infiltrate our democracy, his attorney general refusing to testify about it, and calling it spying, this is dangerous stuff for the greatest democracy the world has ever known. if we fail to confront this in a meaningful, powerful way to ensure the justice necessary we will have set a precedent that will ruin this democracy for the generations that follow us. this is a moment that counts for more than any i can imagine. i want all of us, republican, democrat, independent alike to be up to the challenge. i want to give you a chance to respond about criticisms about you. but i want one more answer, with all that said is nancy pelosi moving too slowly toward impeachment? i just read about a case of contempt brought against eric holder during the obama administration. it took eight or nine years to
ridiculous where the media is culpable for this nonsense. anybody in the media ought to be laughing at these politicians who are talking about how oh my god, they re calling it spying. it s a joke. it s a joke. sandra: there was the who as far as questions answered by bill barr in that interview in talking about him digging into exactly what happened at the origins of this russia probe. he said this was handled at very senior levels. he made that point very clear at the f.b.i., c.i.a., and other agencies that were involved. referencing an ad hoc small group of people, many of who are not even at the agencies anymore. let me get to the heart of this problem as i think the american people are just starting to learn what this means. when you run a counter intelligence investigation, it s very different than a criminal investigation. counter intelligence is almost always used to go after foreigners that are trying to do harm to americans or our allies.
period after the fbi opened a formal inquiry which was in july, 2016 but in the intelligence gathering that occurred before then and i think the fbi response is going to be at that point this was not a criminal investigation. there was a counterintelligence operation and you conduct that in a certain way so there s going to be some bumping of heads over the use of the word spying and what exactly that means and when it is that attorney general barr is concerned about what the fbi did. but your readers and our viewers, is it spying is it surveillance is it semantics what was going on in terms of koument intelligence and intelligence gathering it seems the bottom line may be was the dossier which is unverified use by our government to spy on americans as william barr suggests? you know, he didn t give a particularly straight answer to the question what the role of the das aida was. i think that s one of the questio
the bruce ohr 302 and the other documents, that s all on top of what we already know, it wasn t by the doj and fbi in order to secure this. harris: it s the end of the summer, people are tuning back in trying to figure out what things have changed. the big change in all of this is the fisa application for carter page, who was looked at very closely, some people call it spying. it was looked at very closely, and those of the documents that put the allowance if you will for that spying to happen. you now want all of that fisa application process to be made public, even carter page has said he wants that now. there bruce ohr situation, let s drill down on that a little bit. what are you looking for specifically?
of the united states. yeah, and again, i do believe that the president when he says that campaign was being spied on, his definition, his use of the word and many other people who are calling it spying, t it s being consistent, not misleading. that s note s saying. on he s saying planted by the fbi to help hillary clinton. he has been very specific about it. so as far as the second part with regards to helping hillary clinton, there is clear asay evidence. peter had a role in this process, as to what we re talk ing about now with regards to the end of the e-mail probe with regards to the beginning of the trump probe regards to the fisa application. peter struck played a hugely important role. now he hasn t even come to congress. the clinton e-mail investigation. he was also invved in the russia investiga. the person who teed had a role to play in the overlap. he was definitely involved. he was a deputy head of counter.