from the top. the president is the leader and he has to get efb in a room and lead. welcome back. kimberly atkins from the boston harold, michael gur sten and jennifer lommary. and has been involved in a shutdown or two. so know shutdown politics well. kimberly, it does appear as if we re waiting to see how schumer s responding to whatever happened in the white house meeting. there is is there c.h.i.p. included or not, is it shortening it to three weeks. five days is off the table. but something is afoot. we just don t know the details. yes. something is afoot and it makes sense because regardless at the end of the day, shutdowns are terrible, they are unpopular. and parties on both sides will get blames but i think in this case the republicans about bear the brunt of it. but what you said, the important thing is this rests with the