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children, not just kharkiv but untold numbers of children have lost their lives and been harmed. what do you make or what can you tell us about this xrart interview? i watched it. i believe president zelenskyy conducted the interview in russian. first of all, president zelenskyy comes from the russian speaking part of ukraine. he got used to speaking ukrainian. but in the beginning, he was still a russian speaker. i ve been saying all along that if we want this conflict to end if, we want to remove the threat, to the entire planet, if we want to see russian people want that it regime change and kind of oppose, you know, the
ukraine which is free, resisting russian aggression and most important, reforming itself and turning itself into a democratic europeanizing state. that s not inevitable but it is possible. we ought to be leaning into that because such a ukraine would be really good for us, as well as the ukrainians. we shouldn t be destroying our political capital in partisan fights that we export to them. there s also another point of tension here at the united nations general assembly and kristen will kerr alluded to it. iran s president has ruled out any find of face-to-face talks. it seems wildly unlikely that any of that is going to happen. should it? take a step back. what is it we actually want from iran? is it regime change? that was john bolton, he s gone. is it an end to all of iran s bad behavior? that was secretary pompeo on the talk shows yesterday. or is it an end to iran s
building international coalition and it does seem to be coming together. it is a big deal that we have britain putting more forces into the persian gulf because britain, germany and france were very much against us on a ranch or the truck to cultural companies on how to circumvent u.s. financial sanctions. on a raft nuclear program. and the fact that london has come around i think is a sign that u.s. diplomacy is working very well. i know they want to go to the un i think it might be a waste of time but build the coalition and strike back with allied force that shows iran that taken the military path will be fruitless. jillian: is anything else that you would like to see our allies doing right now? i think ultimately it is fine i think the president is right to leave it open to negotiations but that will not happen anytime soon. without calling it regime change think we can be rooting for the people ever ran to replace the bureaucratic regime that does not enter the start of the peop
american policy? is it to compel iran back to the negotiating table to negotiate a better agreement on more favorable terms to the u.s.? is it regime change? is it to fracture, collapse and ultimately lay the basis for iranians to rise up? it seems to me these are fantastical goals and final point you have a risk averse president who is frankly carrying on the policy of his predecessor, not getting america into new wars and trying to get them out of old ones and that is what you see in this flit between president trump and national security adviser john bolton. well to that point, we know that trump has called to complain about ambassador bolton and to add to that, cnn has also reporting today that secretary of state mike pompeo and bolton just don t like each other. not to mention president trump knows going to war with iran just isn t good for him