Volume 1, 193. He lied three times. Why didnt you charge him with a crime . I cant get into internal deliberations as to what or would not be you charged a lot of people from making false statements. Lets remember this. In 2016 the fbi did something they probably havent done before. They spied on two american citizens associated with the president ial campaign. George papadopoulos and carter page. Was carter page who then went to the g the fisa court. With mr. Papadopoulos they didnt go to the court. They used human sources. From about the moment papadopoulos joins the Trump Campaign you have all of these people All Around The World starting to swirl around him. Names like halper, downer, misfeud, thompson. Meeting in rome, london, all
kinds of places and the fbi even sent a lady posing as somebody else. Went by the name turk to spy on papadopoulos. In one of the meetings he is talking to a foreign diplomat and he says that the russians have dirt on clinton. That Diplomat Contacts the
now, let me ask you something. that doesn t sound much like joe biden was involved in whatever hunter biden was doing with the cefc if hunter biden is telling him that he is trying to do business with them, does it? no. but it does show that he told his father he was try position do business and. well that, is true, hunter biden does try to do business. that s correct. gillian: juan, it puzzles me that a democrat representative of the president s own party would say that during a hearing when the president himself has gone through extensive lengths to say to insist i don t know anything about my son s business dealings. we have never even discussed them, ever. well, i don t think he refuted that. all he was saying is it s much like a father saying to son i m trying to start a business. business dealings would suggest that he is involved in negotiations and setting prices or bridging connections. that s what the republicans are
administration has had so far is not to the take a step back, they haven t taken a accept back to say this is just the a step back to say this is just the tip of the iceberg of what the chinese are doing, and we need to be very aware of that. i think that s what s missing from this broader discussion. paul: yeah. it seemed to me that the president s remarks suggest he wanted to reassure people, look, we handled it well, we shot it down, everything s cool and fine, we ll manage this, don t worry about a it rather hand take the time to explain to people, which you just did, about the fact that times have changed. this isn t we have to worry about espionage and intelligence gathering and, worse, on american soil. it puzzles me that the administration isn t doing this. of. no,st the not doing it. i think we are at a point where some u.s. agencies including the fbi, there was a very useful discussion recently by the fbi
concerns, at least from the fbi s end about tiktok. they include the possibility that the chinese government could use it to control data collection on millions of users or control the recommendation algorithm, which could be used for influence operations if they so chose or to control software on millions of devices. john: tiktok was described for young users as digital fentanyl, and really is the perfect trojan horse. get young people hooked on it, they use it and collect mountains of information on them. it puzzles many americans where the u.s. government would want to ban an app which is full of young people dancing and tons of cat videos, but the fact is that this is a trojan horse surveillance program. and senator warner said something remarkable and fox news sunday over the weekend. said donald trump was right when he tried to ban tiktok, all the
now we know in that moment of those two he was not joking. those two men believed it. but i think equally, that scientist was encouraging him. yeah, i remember because i was on the air that day and i remember being on with wolf blitzer after he said that and saying in a live shot, you know, dear american people, do not do what the president of the united states just said. but i have to come back to this question because to me, it puzzles me to this day. how could anybody in their right mind working with the president that the time think he was dealing with reality? if you were to go up to any person on the street and somebody was rambling about injecting themselves with disinfectant, you would question what is going on in their heads and here he s going to be the president for months and months and months dealing with pandemic. that s why i come back to this question and i don t mean to go off on you, i don t understand why you or some of the others in the administration didn t